So basicly what you are saying is that it's ok to kill thousands of people if not millions just so you can satisfy your curiosity of whether a country may or may not have weapons of mass destruction?
What if I'm curious to see if you have some illegal substances at home but you don't want me to come in to take a look, according to you it would be ok for me to blow down your door and start shooting people just to find out.
Ben - NC USA, 2008-07-16 14:57:34
Hey Steve--What forged evidence are you talking about. Lots of reasons they invaded Iraq. The main one is to get rid of a tyrant that gassed his own people -oppressed 3/4 of the population-his son's having rape rooms. Invaded neighboring countries-- In violation of sixteen different U.N. security council resolutions--giving Moneys to suicide bombers family's --secretly Imprisoning millions of Iraqi's--murdering millions of his own people. You can't forge those facts.No Steve, Saddam wasn't placed their by the great Satan, like most Dictators in that region he came to power by a bloody coup. The U.S. supported them during the Iraq-Iran war when Iran wasn't the Americans favorite country because of the U.S. hostages affair.If you do not see a difference in Saddam invading Kuwait to spread Saddams oppression to the U.S. and freedom,you might have a bad case of Saddam envy.
Micheal, 2008-07-16 14:41:54
I can appreciate those out there who have the humanitarian heart and assume since he is a Canadian citizen he is innocent until proven guilty. That is if he was arrested in Canada say for shoplifting. This is during an actual battle in a war we are fighting and guess what, HE WAS FIGHTING FOR THE OTHER SIDE!! He is not a Canadian soldier commting a crime, the crime was he was fighting against allied soldiers which could of easily been Canadian. His buddies are in Afghanistan as we write this plotting how to kill more Canadians! You think there is no crime committed?? Wake up and smell the gun powder!
Redneck Larry
Larry H, 2008-07-16 14:34:33
Marnie
And he will sit in jail until his trial, which his lawyers are trying to delay because they want him just sent to canada. So he is being treated fairly.
wayne, 2008-07-16 14:20:58
Aside from being born in Toronto, how Canadian is Omar Khadr really?
Omar Khadr was born Sept 1986 Toronto, but only because his family returned to Canada to get medical treatment for their son Ibrahim. That autumn they moved back to Pakistan.
They lived in Pakistan until 1992 when Omar's father returned to Canada for medical treatment for shrapnel wounds.
They returned to Pakistan in 1993, moved to Afghanistan in 1996 where Omar Khadr stayed until his capture by American troops in 2002.
With the kind assistance provided the Khadr family by Western society, both financial and medical, I find their disdain for western social influence quite hypocritical.
Chris, 2008-07-16 14:08:26
He is a Canadian citizen and he has not yet been convicted of any crime - which means he is innocent until proven guilty. And there is the issue of what it does to us spiritually when we use, condone or justify the use of evil means (torture) in the 'interests' of good aims (the elimination of evil.)If, like our enemies, we condone the use of violence against our enemies, does the line between them and us become blurred?
did you forget that Iraq lost to the americans previously, sued for peace and signed agreements to what they would do the nbroke that treaty. That is an act of war. They refused weapons inspections. The conquering army has every legal right to attack again.
Looking into a black box and speculating what is on the inside is never exact. The only way you know for sure is by openeing it. The americans did and didn't find what they thought. Iraq could have prevented this mis info by giving the real info and allowing weapons inspections. But feel free to blame on your limited info.
wayne, 2008-07-16 13:46:31
He has No feet-no hands-no eyes .Maybe he's only dreaming of being tortured. What an Canadian embarrassment. Taliban Tweety has put Omar Kadar on her list of heroes to worship . To bad "Toronto rocks" can't weep with Omar in person.
Micheal, 2008-07-16 13:29:54
Oh and for you law geniuses out there. If you belong to a gang that goes out with the purpose of killing people and as a gang you kill someone all are guilty of murder, not just the one who actually threw the grenade. It required all of you to do the act and all ar equally guilty.
wayne, 2008-07-16 13:27:35
Well John,
I do think the war in Iraq is illegal simply based on Bush's forged evidence, which the american government has even come out and said was wrong. America initially went after the Taliban and there was nothing wrong with that, then overnight and for basically no reason invaded Iraq. Now I don't agree with what Saddam was doing over there but that doesn't mean you just walk in and bomb the hell out of the country....infact wasn't Saddam placed there by the Americans in the first place? And how is American invading Iraq any different than Iraq invading Kuwait a decade earlier? If Bush stayed in Afganistan and fought that war I would support him but in my eyes he went in for oil and a little payback on the attempted assisination of his father. Honestly if 9/11 didn't happend and American wasn't already in Afganistan then there would be no way Bush would have been able to get the public support to invade Iraq at the time.
Finally, it's this is my opinion, right or wrong but it's the way I see it. You may see it differently and that's your choice but when your only come back is just just call people names it only shows you are nothing but a narrow minded dimwit. Clearly you think the war in Iraq is justified...so instead of calling people names why not say why you think it's so and why Bush shouldn' face charges. Or of course you could come back with something witty like...you're an idiot.
Steve, 2008-07-16 13:20:49
Can Omar Khadr be reintegrated?
So basicly what you are saying is that it's ok to kill thousands of people if not millions just so you can satisfy your curiosity of whether a country may or may not have weapons of mass destruction?
What if I'm curious to see if you have some illegal substances at home but you don't want me to come in to take a look, according to you it would be ok for me to blow down your door and start shooting people just to find out.
Ben - NC USA, 2008-07-16 14:57:34
Micheal, 2008-07-16 14:41:54
I can appreciate those out there who have the humanitarian heart and assume since he is a Canadian citizen he is innocent until proven guilty. That is if he was arrested in Canada say for shoplifting. This is during an actual battle in a war we are fighting and guess what, HE WAS FIGHTING FOR THE OTHER SIDE!! He is not a Canadian soldier commting a crime, the crime was he was fighting against allied soldiers which could of easily been Canadian. His buddies are in Afghanistan as we write this plotting how to kill more Canadians! You think there is no crime committed?? Wake up and smell the gun powder!
Redneck Larry
Larry H, 2008-07-16 14:34:33
And he will sit in jail until his trial, which his lawyers are trying to delay because they want him just sent to canada. So he is being treated fairly.
wayne, 2008-07-16 14:20:58
Omar Khadr was born Sept 1986 Toronto, but only because his family returned to Canada to get medical treatment for their son Ibrahim. That autumn they moved back to Pakistan.
They lived in Pakistan until 1992 when Omar's father returned to Canada for medical treatment for shrapnel wounds.
They returned to Pakistan in 1993, moved to Afghanistan in 1996 where Omar Khadr stayed until his capture by American troops in 2002.
With the kind assistance provided the Khadr family by Western society, both financial and medical, I find their disdain for western social influence quite hypocritical.
Chris, 2008-07-16 14:08:26
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Marnie Tunay, 2008-07-16 14:03:54
did you forget that Iraq lost to the americans previously, sued for peace and signed agreements to what they would do the nbroke that treaty. That is an act of war. They refused weapons inspections. The conquering army has every legal right to attack again.
Looking into a black box and speculating what is on the inside is never exact. The only way you know for sure is by openeing it. The americans did and didn't find what they thought. Iraq could have prevented this mis info by giving the real info and allowing weapons inspections. But feel free to blame on your limited info.
wayne, 2008-07-16 13:46:31
Micheal, 2008-07-16 13:29:54
wayne, 2008-07-16 13:27:35
I do think the war in Iraq is illegal simply based on Bush's forged evidence, which the american government has even come out and said was wrong. America initially went after the Taliban and there was nothing wrong with that, then overnight and for basically no reason invaded Iraq. Now I don't agree with what Saddam was doing over there but that doesn't mean you just walk in and bomb the hell out of the country....infact wasn't Saddam placed there by the Americans in the first place? And how is American invading Iraq any different than Iraq invading Kuwait a decade earlier? If Bush stayed in Afganistan and fought that war I would support him but in my eyes he went in for oil and a little payback on the attempted assisination of his father. Honestly if 9/11 didn't happend and American wasn't already in Afganistan then there would be no way Bush would have been able to get the public support to invade Iraq at the time.
Finally, it's this is my opinion, right or wrong but it's the way I see it. You may see it differently and that's your choice but when your only come back is just just call people names it only shows you are nothing but a narrow minded dimwit. Clearly you think the war in Iraq is justified...so instead of calling people names why not say why you think it's so and why Bush shouldn' face charges. Or of course you could come back with something witty like...you're an idiot.
Steve, 2008-07-16 13:20:49