the argument about guilt is over, he has admitted guilt, even apologising to the family of the deceased soldier.
the topic is;
"Can Omar Khadr be reintegrated?"
taking the time to apologise is one thing, full integrating into society eventually is another.
however after serving his time in prison, he should be returned to his country of origin.
beakie, 2010-10-29 07:46:54
Sure he can be rehabilitated. Just as any soldier from Canadian forces or American military can be rehabilitated.
I fail to understand the biggotery of this entire tale.
khadr was a fighter to an Islamic cause. The American was a fighter to the American cause ??
The idea was to kill or be killed. The Americans were the agresser ??
Who attacked who and who was defending their ideals the same as America would if they were attacked.
How many died from so called collateral damage....much more likely a planned attack in secret...
Orhow many innocent people of the world have died in CIA covert activity around the world.
Let this pawn of the military tribunal go free and try to rehabilitate him as we would any other trained killer...Canadian army and American army...no difference.
ron, 2010-10-29 06:41:24
Can Harper be rehabilitated? Speer was an american soldier invading a foreign land, a dedicated member of a rogue military that to this day is killing civilians. Those civilians are being 'murdered', not soldiers like Speer who was KIA.
rick, 2010-10-29 05:59:48
Let's get this straight people. The dude pled guilty, and now is an admitted home-grown terrorist who want's us to forget the fact he took a life, and pay for him to attend a Christian based college! WOW, the irony! The fact that our Canadian soldiers are dying to protect this guy's rights as a Canadian citizen is very disturbing. Shove a grenade up his butt, and pull the pin. Allah will take care of the rest. Make no mistake about it, thjis guy is a cold blooded killer. He is not a soldier. Let the United States process him as a terrorist, and save us time, paperwork, money, and national embarrassment.
Observer, 2010-10-29 02:29:02
He is so sorry for killing the infidel medic and waging war against others...Please release him and we promise he will not killing anymore.
Love,
Omama Bin Nothin
C/O el-Qaeda HQ
Pakistani Border Region.
Omama Bin Nothin, 2010-10-28 21:12:07
Well said Jay. What did Ms Speers expect? Her husband went off to fight for the American occupation of Afghanistan. She must have known he had a chance of being killed. Too bad family members of all the Afghan and Iraqi civilians killed by the Americans could not give victim impact statements to the American murderers of their family members
Mrs-Brigand, 2010-10-28 20:45:03
Please explain, Jay From Ottawa and ron glyn, exactly how the U.S. was "the enemy" insofar as Khadr is concerned? He is a Canadian - which is the underlying reason for all the bleating about "protecting his rights." Last time I looked, Canada wasn't at war with the U.S. I'm Irish-Canadian, but at no time in my life did I ever think about taking up arms against Britain during "The Troubles." Had this been, say, a German-Canadian (i.e., born in Canada of German-born parents) who had decided to go off to war on the side of Al-Quaida against the US he'd be no less guilty.
Because you don't agree with the U.S. action in Afghanistan (and previously in Iraq) is immaterial, just as is the fact I happen to support their actions in both places.
As a Canadian he had no business being there.
FedUpSenior, 2010-10-28 19:19:50
"A young Kahadr being taken to court for doing what he thought was right in an attack of his land and ideals."
Good point.
I say drop all the charges and send his terrorist butt back to his chosen country of Afghanistan immediately.
Don't be so obtuse Jay, your quote is taken entirely out of context.
The quote was originally comparing how the terrorist POS Khadr is being portrayed as the poor victim while he was a zealous participant, while Speer's children having to grow up without their dad makes them the real victims.
As for the part where you say "Just because this war is against an ememy that doesn't follow typical military doctrine of wearing uniforms and having an age of consent doesn't make afghan deaths KIAs and coalition deaths murders. It's a war, not a conference on values and ideologies", how is it that the leftards expect our military to extend all the courtesies afforded by following established rules of war (ie treatment of prisoners) but the same tards expect everyone to look the other way when the ones with no uniforms commit atrocities and hide behind innocents?
I and others will not.
The terrorist cowards that don't wear uniforms and hide behind their own women and children do not deserve to be thought of as soldiers, they are savage extremists that murdered Tanner and Taryn's dad in cold blood.
Then a soldier saved this same worthless POS terrorist's life.
THAT was the mistake.
uplink, 2010-10-28 19:10:11
ron glyn, 2010-10-28 16:09:04
You are an idiot through and through. Number one Khadr was born in Canada making him Canadian no matter how sick to my stomach that is. It was not an attack on his land, you can say it is an attack on his religion if you choose, but Canadians who choose to fight NATO in Afghanistan are not fighting for us. You claim Canada and the United States are guilty of far more terrible crimes, wrong again, in fact Muslims kill got that KILL more of their own people with the utmost brutality(stoning) than the United States or any other country so spare me your bs. Frankly it is people like yourself who disgust me, defending the most radical elements of Islam especially in this case the Khadrs, because of some sick Liberal belief we are the cause of their problems. Take a hike RON if that is your real name.
paul, 2010-10-28 18:36:05
ron glyn, 2010-10-28 16:09:04 Posted: "A young Kahadr being taken to court for doing what he thought was right in an attack OF HIS LAND (caps mine) and ideals."
Kahdr is, unfortunately, by birthright A CANADIAN. His parents were born in PAKISTAN. Khadr's IDEALS, and his entire family sanctions the slaughter of infidels as a religious imperative. BTW, you are an idiot.
Not_the_Daddy, 2010-10-28 17:22:36
Can Omar Khadr be reintegrated?
the argument about guilt is over, he has admitted guilt, even apologising to the family of the deceased soldier.
the topic is;
"Can Omar Khadr be reintegrated?"
taking the time to apologise is one thing, full integrating into society eventually is another.
however after serving his time in prison, he should be returned to his country of origin.
beakie, 2010-10-29 07:46:54
I fail to understand the biggotery of this entire tale.
khadr was a fighter to an Islamic cause. The American was a fighter to the American cause ??
The idea was to kill or be killed. The Americans were the agresser ??
Who attacked who and who was defending their ideals the same as America would if they were attacked.
How many died from so called collateral damage....much more likely a planned attack in secret...
Orhow many innocent people of the world have died in CIA covert activity around the world.
Let this pawn of the military tribunal go free and try to rehabilitate him as we would any other trained killer...Canadian army and American army...no difference.
ron, 2010-10-29 06:41:24
rick, 2010-10-29 05:59:48
Observer, 2010-10-29 02:29:02
Love,
Omama Bin Nothin
C/O el-Qaeda HQ
Pakistani Border Region.
Omama Bin Nothin, 2010-10-28 21:12:07
Mrs-Brigand, 2010-10-28 20:45:03
Because you don't agree with the U.S. action in Afghanistan (and previously in Iraq) is immaterial, just as is the fact I happen to support their actions in both places.
As a Canadian he had no business being there.
FedUpSenior, 2010-10-28 19:19:50
Good point.
I say drop all the charges and send his terrorist butt back to his chosen country of Afghanistan immediately.
Don't be so obtuse Jay, your quote is taken entirely out of context.
The quote was originally comparing how the terrorist POS Khadr is being portrayed as the poor victim while he was a zealous participant, while Speer's children having to grow up without their dad makes them the real victims.
As for the part where you say "Just because this war is against an ememy that doesn't follow typical military doctrine of wearing uniforms and having an age of consent doesn't make afghan deaths KIAs and coalition deaths murders. It's a war, not a conference on values and ideologies", how is it that the leftards expect our military to extend all the courtesies afforded by following established rules of war (ie treatment of prisoners) but the same tards expect everyone to look the other way when the ones with no uniforms commit atrocities and hide behind innocents?
I and others will not.
The terrorist cowards that don't wear uniforms and hide behind their own women and children do not deserve to be thought of as soldiers, they are savage extremists that murdered Tanner and Taryn's dad in cold blood.
Then a soldier saved this same worthless POS terrorist's life.
THAT was the mistake.
uplink, 2010-10-28 19:10:11
You are an idiot through and through. Number one Khadr was born in Canada making him Canadian no matter how sick to my stomach that is. It was not an attack on his land, you can say it is an attack on his religion if you choose, but Canadians who choose to fight NATO in Afghanistan are not fighting for us. You claim Canada and the United States are guilty of far more terrible crimes, wrong again, in fact Muslims kill got that KILL more of their own people with the utmost brutality(stoning) than the United States or any other country so spare me your bs. Frankly it is people like yourself who disgust me, defending the most radical elements of Islam especially in this case the Khadrs, because of some sick Liberal belief we are the cause of their problems. Take a hike RON if that is your real name.
paul, 2010-10-28 18:36:05
Kahdr is, unfortunately, by birthright A CANADIAN. His parents were born in PAKISTAN. Khadr's IDEALS, and his entire family sanctions the slaughter of infidels as a religious imperative. BTW, you are an idiot.
Not_the_Daddy, 2010-10-28 17:22:36