Do you think modern religion is out of touch? Tue, March 17, 2009
Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday that the distribution of condoms is not the answer in the fight against AIDS in Africa.
Benedict has never before spoken explicitly on condom use although he has stressed that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS. The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease.
"You can't resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem."
Do you think religion is out of touch with modern day life?
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It was a wise man who invented GOD.
Get a life SLAVES!
brucecification, 2009-06-08 10:44:46
Divine ordination is a very dangerous idea, especially when combined with military power (the United States has 10,000 nuclear weapons, with military bases in a hundred different countries and warships on every sea). With God's approval, you need no human standard of morality. Anyone today who claims the support of God might be embarrassed to recall that the Nazi storm troopers had inscribed on their belts, "Gott mit uns" ("God with us").
Diefenbaker, 2009-05-10 12:06:04
"So for some, Science is becoming the very thing that they reject in Religion."
Only the ones that believe in Science as per the bug scientist...
Real science does not require faith, only logic.
Religion requires logic be abandoned.
uplink, 2009-04-24 15:57:12
... an interesting article in the Vancouver Sun that comments on how religion and science are similar...
"Scientism infects Darwin Debates (Douglas Todd) - The most obvious obstacle is religious literalism, which leads to Creationism. It's the belief the Bible or other ancient sacred texts offer the first and last word on how humans came into existence.
The second major barrier to a rewarding public conversation about the impact of evolution on the way we understand the world is not named nearly as much.
It is "scientism."
Scientism is the belief that the sciences have no boundaries and will, in the end, be able to explain everything in the universe. Scientism can, like religious literalism, become its own ideology."
So for some, Science is becoming the very thing that they reject in Religion.
Westwind64, 2009-04-05 10:51:33
So Penny, thou shalt not steal is based on a religion? Name one commandment that is actually based on a religion. To give you a hint of my response to your answer, God is not a religion.
Dave, 2009-04-02 21:21:56
I see that antisemitism is alive and well in Penny's mind. Maz, got your point. I think that I did misunderstand. I think that alot of people who choose to have a faith live in a very complicated balance of modern life and religious doctrine. I know people who aren't supposed to eat bacon or ham and they do. I know people who are supposed to abstain from extramarital sex and they don't, etc etc, yet they self identify with a religious faith. A really funny book to read is "A year of living Biblically" by AJ Jacobs. He tried to live by the old testament and found some really hilarious things that were impossible to do by today's standards... it's a good tongue in cheek about the relevance of religion as it was two thousand years ago and compares it with our lives today.
There probably IS a God..., 2009-04-01 12:45:10
Dizzle,
Think about physics, particularly quantum physics. Can the average person actually see or touch a neutrino? They actually bombard and pass through our bodies every day. It is something that is very intangible because it is so complex, yet we believe what we read about it. My mind just boggles when I try to conceptualize that stuff. You can choose to disbelieve the complexities of neutrinos if you really want to, and because they are invisible and not discovered until 1930.
Religious faith is the same. It's very complex and you choose to believe that it exists you would never understand it.
You wouldn't "get" it unless you "got religion". It's that human need for spirituality that completes that equation. You could say the concept of God is like the concept of a neutrino.
Westwind64, 2009-04-01 12:34:40
Brainwashed works. How else can anyone believe so much in something that there is no proof of or have never seen??
dizzle, 2009-03-31 14:04:28
Doesn't matter if there is or isn't it's about repsecting people to choose and follow their own paths, sharing only allowed when welcomed.
Penny, 2009-03-31 13:30:28
the ten comandments are a problem for me, because they come from the Hebrew people. It's not a path I choose to follow.
We all have a moral code built into us(as has been pointed out) that we follow or choose to ignore.
The ten comandemnts has a Thou shalt have no other gods, claus that makes it particularily hard for me to follow.
Now perhaps I could go with nine of them, re written and not based on a religion and I would be fine. Thats why we have Federal and provincial laws. They are not based on faith they are based on community. I'm not arguing who made the first book of laws or rules, I'm talking about today, in the now living with people of many faiths trying to get along and respect each other. I do not except the bible as a book of absolute truth, for me it has histroy and some wisdom and a great deal of violence. It's on the list but below(way below) Easops fables, and Dr Seuss.
Get a life SLAVES!
brucecification, 2009-06-08 10:44:46
Diefenbaker, 2009-05-10 12:06:04
Only the ones that believe in Science as per the bug scientist...
Real science does not require faith, only logic.
Religion requires logic be abandoned.
uplink, 2009-04-24 15:57:12
"Scientism infects Darwin Debates (Douglas Todd) - The most obvious obstacle is religious literalism, which leads to Creationism. It's the belief the Bible or other ancient sacred texts offer the first and last word on how humans came into existence.
The second major barrier to a rewarding public conversation about the impact of evolution on the way we understand the world is not named nearly as much.
It is "scientism."
Scientism is the belief that the sciences have no boundaries and will, in the end, be able to explain everything in the universe. Scientism can, like religious literalism, become its own ideology."
http://www.vancouversun.com/Life/Scientism+infects+Darwinian+debates/1464023/story.html
So for some, Science is becoming the very thing that they reject in Religion.
Westwind64, 2009-04-05 10:51:33
Dave, 2009-04-02 21:21:56
There probably IS a God..., 2009-04-01 12:45:10
Think about physics, particularly quantum physics. Can the average person actually see or touch a neutrino? They actually bombard and pass through our bodies every day. It is something that is very intangible because it is so complex, yet we believe what we read about it. My mind just boggles when I try to conceptualize that stuff. You can choose to disbelieve the complexities of neutrinos if you really want to, and because they are invisible and not discovered until 1930.
Religious faith is the same. It's very complex and you choose to believe that it exists you would never understand it.
You wouldn't "get" it unless you "got religion". It's that human need for spirituality that completes that equation. You could say the concept of God is like the concept of a neutrino.
Westwind64, 2009-04-01 12:34:40
dizzle, 2009-03-31 14:04:28
Penny, 2009-03-31 13:30:28
We all have a moral code built into us(as has been pointed out) that we follow or choose to ignore.
The ten comandemnts has a Thou shalt have no other gods, claus that makes it particularily hard for me to follow.
Now perhaps I could go with nine of them, re written and not based on a religion and I would be fine. Thats why we have Federal and provincial laws. They are not based on faith they are based on community. I'm not arguing who made the first book of laws or rules, I'm talking about today, in the now living with people of many faiths trying to get along and respect each other. I do not except the bible as a book of absolute truth, for me it has histroy and some wisdom and a great deal of violence. It's on the list but below(way below) Easops fables, and Dr Seuss.
Penny, 2009-03-31 13:29:40