My thoughts and prayers are with Tori's family.I personally don't believe life in prison is enough for what this monster has done. I believe the Death Penalty should be reinstated especially in cases involving children... Little Tori may you Rest in Peace...
sherry dawes, 2010-12-09 16:21:50
I can't imagine the pain of Tori's family. What an indescribable waste..What can said agianst the monster that did this? Death? Prolonged & constant reminder of her heinous crimes and suffering she has caused? Line her cell with pictures of Tori including when she was found?..I don't know..I have a daughter that looks strikingly similar to Tori..its hard to look at her photo & not see my own kid...I feel for the family...
John M, 2010-12-09 12:42:52
I can only hope that she is "taken care of" by her own kind in prison! Parole? Absolutely not! She deserves everything she gets in there!
M. Herkner, 2010-12-09 11:52:23
we will be happy when canada adopts the texas justice laws..death penalty for these 2 people..fast track them both NO DEALS...Canadian laws are the laughing stock of the whole world..
molly, 2010-03-12 20:34:59
the death penalty should be brought BACK for child killers, dirty rotten creeps like him will keep on killing our children Its happening all the time
Earl Work, 2009-09-07 08:45:42
"When do we start looking at how our society is creating more and more monsters."
The monsters have always been there. Probably more than 90% of children that are abducted and murdered are never found, and their killers never face any justice at all. On the off chance that one of them is caught we have to provide terrible, horrific punishments for them.
Suggestions for "society":
1.) Stop teaching people they are victims. Stop telling young women in university classrooms that they were personally victimized by centuries of backward social customs. Stop telling young men in university classrooms that they are guilty, by virtue of birth gender, for generations of abuse perpetrated on women by abusive males. Then you might have fewer messed up adult women who hate men, and fewer adult males who can't get it up and don't know why so they kill women.
2.) Stop coddling criminals. Illegal weapon involved in a criminal act adds an automatic 10 years to the sentence. Any crime involving a child automatically gets life. Reinstate capital punishment.
3.) Teach people to respect each other and the traditions of our country. Instead of looking for ways to point out how "wrong" our western society is point out why we've all come here in the first place. Stop inviting people in immigrate for the purpose of changing our culture. Tell them to immigrate so they can participate in the existing culture.
4.) Teach children to respect their elders, society, their neghbours, their cats and dogs, themselves, the personal space of others... etc.
5.) Stop making excuses and blaming the amorphous "society" for everything.
6.) Hold parents absolutely responsible for their children until they are 18. If the child is convicted of murder and the child cannot be held accountable for the sentence, the parent serves the term, pays the fine, etc.
Society didn't do it. The members of society did.
Chris, 2009-08-14 13:55:31
The judges and lawyers who let Karla Homolka walk should be held responsible for Tori Stafford's death.
They had the chance to stand up and say "we will not tolerate this" and they chose to allow look at their warped version of the "big picture" where convicted child murderers have rights.
Anyone convicted of abducting a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of torturing a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of raping a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of murdering a child should be executed.
Anyone convicted of more than one of the above should be tortured to death - publically - so everyone knows we will not tolerate this.
There are certain things that you just don't do. If you are found guilty of doing one of them the penalties should be so horrible that people live in fear of these crimes. Prevention should include making the penalty for some crimes (those involving children) so horrible that predators will learn to go elsewhere to prey on less stringently protected children.
Chris, 2009-08-14 13:39:10
Chris
I totally understand the anger and need to do something, my fear is that so foten we lose our smarts.
If we start saying it's ok to torture etc, we will no doubt torture the wrong people, or go to far etc.
As far as Judges just letting people walk and saying they just need a hug, thats a big exageration, yes there are criminals who should have been treated with harsher penalities, but not all crimimals are treated that lightly. Als ojudges have to look at the whole picture, it's never black and white. Im not saying we should just let people get away with things, I am saying lets change how we do it.
If we feel judges have political agendas to look after then we need to cut their ties to politics. We need to stop allowing Our PM's to stop appointing them.
it has also been proven that torture can make people say anything you want them to lie or trtuh. When you are desperate you will agree to anything to make it stop.
At what point do we start looking at more prevention. When do we start looking at how our society is creating more and more monsters. We love "extreme", it sells.
Penny, 2009-07-26 09:36:45
The VIA Rail strike has highly discouraged me and my entire staff for ever vacationing with selfish VIA line..This strike notified "0" passengers of strike !!! very POOR PR for
all Canadian bound individuals !! The entire economy will suffer for few selfish engineers !!!!
William Evans, 2009-07-25 18:11:36
I'm kind of torn between "rights and freedoms" when it comes to protecting children. I don't think anything is okay, and all means of protecting children, proactive and reactive, should be utilized at all times. I even go so far as to think it should be okay to use torture to extract evidence in cases where a child has been murdered, not manslaughter, murder. I know this violates many of our precepts as a society, and opens up potential for all manner of transgressions by authourities, but if it saves one kid.... In my opinion it's okay. Waterboarding and other less gruesome modern methods of torture are used all of the time. In a case such as this where the defendant clearly has specific details of the location of the child's remains the only bargain should be about how much gasoline we put in the bucket we are going to use to extract your information. Modern torture is used because it gets results. The only thing that should matter when dealing with child murderers is results.
If anyone harms one of my children they had better pray to whatever diety they worship that the police find them before me and my bucket of gasoline do....
Barbaric? Perhaps. Effective, Damn straight.
Electing judges would hold them accountable for their verdicts. If a judge continually allows criminals to walk because he believes we all just need a hug, his constituents can let him know otherwise at election time. It is absurd to operate a parlimentary system where the laws are applied by a handful of political adherents...
Chris, 2009-07-23 16:07:58
What are your thoughts on the Tori Stafford case?
sherry dawes, 2010-12-09 16:21:50
John M, 2010-12-09 12:42:52
M. Herkner, 2010-12-09 11:52:23
molly, 2010-03-12 20:34:59
Earl Work, 2009-09-07 08:45:42
The monsters have always been there. Probably more than 90% of children that are abducted and murdered are never found, and their killers never face any justice at all. On the off chance that one of them is caught we have to provide terrible, horrific punishments for them.
Suggestions for "society":
1.) Stop teaching people they are victims. Stop telling young women in university classrooms that they were personally victimized by centuries of backward social customs. Stop telling young men in university classrooms that they are guilty, by virtue of birth gender, for generations of abuse perpetrated on women by abusive males. Then you might have fewer messed up adult women who hate men, and fewer adult males who can't get it up and don't know why so they kill women.
2.) Stop coddling criminals. Illegal weapon involved in a criminal act adds an automatic 10 years to the sentence. Any crime involving a child automatically gets life. Reinstate capital punishment.
3.) Teach people to respect each other and the traditions of our country. Instead of looking for ways to point out how "wrong" our western society is point out why we've all come here in the first place. Stop inviting people in immigrate for the purpose of changing our culture. Tell them to immigrate so they can participate in the existing culture.
4.) Teach children to respect their elders, society, their neghbours, their cats and dogs, themselves, the personal space of others... etc.
5.) Stop making excuses and blaming the amorphous "society" for everything.
6.) Hold parents absolutely responsible for their children until they are 18. If the child is convicted of murder and the child cannot be held accountable for the sentence, the parent serves the term, pays the fine, etc.
Society didn't do it. The members of society did.
Chris, 2009-08-14 13:55:31
They had the chance to stand up and say "we will not tolerate this" and they chose to allow look at their warped version of the "big picture" where convicted child murderers have rights.
Anyone convicted of abducting a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of torturing a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of raping a child should get life.
Anyone convicted of murdering a child should be executed.
Anyone convicted of more than one of the above should be tortured to death - publically - so everyone knows we will not tolerate this.
There are certain things that you just don't do. If you are found guilty of doing one of them the penalties should be so horrible that people live in fear of these crimes. Prevention should include making the penalty for some crimes (those involving children) so horrible that predators will learn to go elsewhere to prey on less stringently protected children.
Chris, 2009-08-14 13:39:10
I totally understand the anger and need to do something, my fear is that so foten we lose our smarts.
If we start saying it's ok to torture etc, we will no doubt torture the wrong people, or go to far etc.
As far as Judges just letting people walk and saying they just need a hug, thats a big exageration, yes there are criminals who should have been treated with harsher penalities, but not all crimimals are treated that lightly. Als ojudges have to look at the whole picture, it's never black and white. Im not saying we should just let people get away with things, I am saying lets change how we do it.
If we feel judges have political agendas to look after then we need to cut their ties to politics. We need to stop allowing Our PM's to stop appointing them.
it has also been proven that torture can make people say anything you want them to lie or trtuh. When you are desperate you will agree to anything to make it stop.
At what point do we start looking at more prevention. When do we start looking at how our society is creating more and more monsters. We love "extreme", it sells.
Penny, 2009-07-26 09:36:45
all Canadian bound individuals !! The entire economy will suffer for few selfish engineers !!!!
William Evans, 2009-07-25 18:11:36
If anyone harms one of my children they had better pray to whatever diety they worship that the police find them before me and my bucket of gasoline do....
Barbaric? Perhaps. Effective, Damn straight.
Electing judges would hold them accountable for their verdicts. If a judge continually allows criminals to walk because he believes we all just need a hug, his constituents can let him know otherwise at election time. It is absurd to operate a parlimentary system where the laws are applied by a handful of political adherents...
Chris, 2009-07-23 16:07:58