I am so disgusted by the OPP's investigation. So they had a video tape of the child walking with a strange woman, getting into a strange car and that situation does not meet Amber Alert criteria? How can that be?
Then they arrest one of the alleged abductors (woman) 4 days later and witch hunt the mother for 6 weeks?
And 6 weeks later, they are asking business's for video tapes of April 8? The public to recall if they say this blue car 6 freaking weeks ago? They had this info within hours!
This case is a freaking disaster. There needs to be a thorough investigation of how this was handled. The OPP handled this case like Mexico deals with murdered Canadian tourists.
cm, 2009-05-26 14:23:46
"Why can't that freak just tell the cops where her body is I mean he's already in jail so can't he just give these parents closure"
The dickless wonder who is suspected of this crime has the right to remain silent. And has probably been advised not to admit to anything. However, if I may borrow your suggestion and extrapolate it a tad further: instead of "buying" information from murderers like this turd and Homolka, and Olsen, ad naseum, and since we don't have the collective stomach to use the torture methods that would be appropriate in these cases and deliver results, how about we provide the opposite? Why don't we subject the b..tard to increasingly uncomffortable conditions until he "volunteers" the information? Instead of rewarding him for giving out information, how about we penalize him for not cooperating? Worked for me when dad wanted to know who broke the fishing rod...
Seriously, are we just powerless before these mastermind criminals??? Until he is proven guilty he still has rights. However, what about the rights of Tori's family to know the truth?
Chris, 2009-05-26 13:47:20
Chris:
You continue to take my and others points out of context. Custodial or non-custodial parent, doesnt' make a difference as there are tonnes of documented cases of the noncustodial parent being the perpretrator. You are determined to turn this into something it's not. Just because dad is turning his life around doesn't mean he shouldn't be a suspect. That is and always has been my point. Nowhere did I say Rodney was guilty and Tara was not, I stated that they should have been equally suspected. But it quite often seems that when guys decide to turn their lives around, all of a sudden they can do no wrong. No one's talking about his past, just Tara's. Your comments about how Victoria was lured away by a female, well, following your logic, you're anti-female. Your comments about what Rodney believes - you're feeding into more speculation there is no evidence for, the same type of speculation that led to the unacceptable treatment of mom and brother by the cops. I highly doubt if the situation was reversed, people would be praising Tara for turning her life around, people would be saying how she shouldn't have messed it up in the first place. Enough of this, you can believe Rodney and all men are saints, I will believe any human is capable of vile behaviour regardless of gender and will avoid speculation in favour of evidence, of which there is none to suspect Tara at all that's not based on speculation.
chris, 2009-05-26 13:33:44
now twitiot, that's no joke, actually it's a reasonable thought. However you and reasonable thought would be the epitomy of an oxymoron.
And obviously morons are something you're famailiar with.
My word, you are just stuck on stupid.
This little girl obviously met a very tragic sad end, and that's the type of compassion you have? Sad pathetic little twerp you really are.
Hammertime, 2009-05-26 13:21:37
He wasn't making a joke Tweety. He saying if the body decomposes, there will be a lesser chance to find good DNA .
Ryan in Calgary, 2009-05-26 13:02:44
drawn and quartered comes to mind, when an 8 yr old little girl is involved all rights should be revolked.
just a mama, 2009-05-26 12:57:44
this is making me more and more angry as I follow up with the news..Why can't that freak just tell the cops where her body is I mean he's already in jail so can't he just give these parents closure honestly this makes me so sick any one reading this and is a pedaphile or hurts children your disgusting and your going to suffer in hell when it comes time for judgement day this is so sad I wish that those losers would just tell the truth and give this family there little girl back....
hbsl, 2009-05-26 12:46:06
"My point was that he should have been a #1 suspect the same as Tara and her boyfriend because he is a family member as well,"
Somewhat true. However, he was not in control of the situation. He was not in a custodial situation. Had he disappeared at he same time he would have been the absolute primary suspect as an abducting parent. That was not the case.
" buthe wasn't because he was "turning his life around". Not acceptable."
Why is that unacceptible? And why would you think that was why he was not the primary suspect. This is the logic I disputed by using an anti-anti-male arguement. People assume a male is automatically guilty and a female, like Ms. McClintic or Ms. Homolka, are automatically incapable of harming a child. That is dangerously flawed logic.
This is not about me. This is not about mine or your personal issues. This is about a tragic case of a little girl - who even the father now states he believes was "targetted" perhaps because of drug related issues in the mother'e life!! - that was taken from us - all of us. And how some of us object to the conditions that allow this to go comparatively unpunished. This is about what we CAN do about it. We cannot bring that innocent little girl back to life. We can treat the prepetrators as harshly as possible. We can condem these actions and send a clear message to anyone who contemplates this that we will absolutely not tolerate this, and we will respond with equal horror to this manner of attrocity.
I can go home tonight and hug my daughter. Tori's parents cannot. We need to do everything we can to prevent this from happening again. It is time that parents stopped being afraid of shadows, and predators in the shadows started fearing us and what we will do to them if we catch them... Then maybe we can prevent this from happening again.
Chris, 2009-05-26 11:36:03
That mysterious limo ride taken to meet a mysterious stranger donating reward money is now so obviously a trick by the police to get the mother to confess.. what a tactic though...
Hiker77, 2009-05-26 09:45:58
NtD AKA SAF ridiculously says..
"They are hoping that decomposition will make any forensic evidence more difficult to gather."
God that is just so silly.
How NtD AKA SAF can make jokes about this very serious topic is truly disgusting
What are your thoughts on the Tori Stafford case?
Then they arrest one of the alleged abductors (woman) 4 days later and witch hunt the mother for 6 weeks?
And 6 weeks later, they are asking business's for video tapes of April 8? The public to recall if they say this blue car 6 freaking weeks ago? They had this info within hours!
This case is a freaking disaster. There needs to be a thorough investigation of how this was handled. The OPP handled this case like Mexico deals with murdered Canadian tourists.
cm, 2009-05-26 14:23:46
The dickless wonder who is suspected of this crime has the right to remain silent. And has probably been advised not to admit to anything. However, if I may borrow your suggestion and extrapolate it a tad further: instead of "buying" information from murderers like this turd and Homolka, and Olsen, ad naseum, and since we don't have the collective stomach to use the torture methods that would be appropriate in these cases and deliver results, how about we provide the opposite? Why don't we subject the b..tard to increasingly uncomffortable conditions until he "volunteers" the information? Instead of rewarding him for giving out information, how about we penalize him for not cooperating? Worked for me when dad wanted to know who broke the fishing rod...
Seriously, are we just powerless before these mastermind criminals??? Until he is proven guilty he still has rights. However, what about the rights of Tori's family to know the truth?
Chris, 2009-05-26 13:47:20
You continue to take my and others points out of context. Custodial or non-custodial parent, doesnt' make a difference as there are tonnes of documented cases of the noncustodial parent being the perpretrator. You are determined to turn this into something it's not. Just because dad is turning his life around doesn't mean he shouldn't be a suspect. That is and always has been my point. Nowhere did I say Rodney was guilty and Tara was not, I stated that they should have been equally suspected. But it quite often seems that when guys decide to turn their lives around, all of a sudden they can do no wrong. No one's talking about his past, just Tara's. Your comments about how Victoria was lured away by a female, well, following your logic, you're anti-female. Your comments about what Rodney believes - you're feeding into more speculation there is no evidence for, the same type of speculation that led to the unacceptable treatment of mom and brother by the cops. I highly doubt if the situation was reversed, people would be praising Tara for turning her life around, people would be saying how she shouldn't have messed it up in the first place. Enough of this, you can believe Rodney and all men are saints, I will believe any human is capable of vile behaviour regardless of gender and will avoid speculation in favour of evidence, of which there is none to suspect Tara at all that's not based on speculation.
chris, 2009-05-26 13:33:44
And obviously morons are something you're famailiar with.
My word, you are just stuck on stupid.
This little girl obviously met a very tragic sad end, and that's the type of compassion you have? Sad pathetic little twerp you really are.
Hammertime, 2009-05-26 13:21:37
Ryan in Calgary, 2009-05-26 13:02:44
just a mama, 2009-05-26 12:57:44
hbsl, 2009-05-26 12:46:06
Somewhat true. However, he was not in control of the situation. He was not in a custodial situation. Had he disappeared at he same time he would have been the absolute primary suspect as an abducting parent. That was not the case.
" buthe wasn't because he was "turning his life around". Not acceptable."
Why is that unacceptible? And why would you think that was why he was not the primary suspect. This is the logic I disputed by using an anti-anti-male arguement. People assume a male is automatically guilty and a female, like Ms. McClintic or Ms. Homolka, are automatically incapable of harming a child. That is dangerously flawed logic.
This is not about me. This is not about mine or your personal issues. This is about a tragic case of a little girl - who even the father now states he believes was "targetted" perhaps because of drug related issues in the mother'e life!! - that was taken from us - all of us. And how some of us object to the conditions that allow this to go comparatively unpunished. This is about what we CAN do about it. We cannot bring that innocent little girl back to life. We can treat the prepetrators as harshly as possible. We can condem these actions and send a clear message to anyone who contemplates this that we will absolutely not tolerate this, and we will respond with equal horror to this manner of attrocity.
I can go home tonight and hug my daughter. Tori's parents cannot. We need to do everything we can to prevent this from happening again. It is time that parents stopped being afraid of shadows, and predators in the shadows started fearing us and what we will do to them if we catch them... Then maybe we can prevent this from happening again.
Chris, 2009-05-26 11:36:03
Hiker77, 2009-05-26 09:45:58
"They are hoping that decomposition will make any forensic evidence more difficult to gather."
God that is just so silly.
How NtD AKA SAF can make jokes about this very serious topic is truly disgusting
EH?
tweetypie, 2009-05-26 08:00:09